Dentists charge entirely too much for their services! Millions of us cannot afford their greed-driven fees,
particularly for such high-priced services as repair or replacement of damaged, loose, or missing teeth .
There is little information available on alternatives. Dentists, dental associations, and their material suppliers prefer to keep their methods and substances a secret to protect their source of high income. It seems to be a world-wide problem, not just here in the US.
For many years now I have offered on this page some useful information for those who, by necessity or preference, need or want to deal with tooth problems on their own. This one page has prompted more email responses than all the others combined, and this site has more than 150 pages, many of them dealing with controversial political and social issues.
Teeth are an important personal issue. When one cannot afford needed care for them, it is also an economic and political issue, though it has not received nearly enough attention .
THE HOME TOOTH REPAIR INFORMATION
Super-glue and its variations are well-known, as are the hazards of
accidentally gluing oneself. Naturally, one must be cautious.
Although dental use is not mentioned on the label, it has proved to be
effective and harmless in my experience over several years. The
following tips will help.
1. A steady hand and a well-lighted mirror are needed.
2. Although SG will bond skin, it does not stick to mucous membranes for
long because they constantly secrete moisture. It will come off onto a dry
3. Repairs can last for several days to several weeks at a time, depending
on the particular application and the skill of your repair. Eventually
the SG deteriorates due to moisture and must be redone.
4. The gel type SG may work best, especially if the mating surfaces are
not entirely even. The gel is also less prone to drip or run. some have an
ester ingredient that emits an odor until dry. Inhale through your nose
and exhale orally to avoid the fumes.
5. The tooth surfaces must stay dry until the glue sets. A square of
toilet paper twisted and placed along the gum area will suffice, and help
separate the gum and mouth surfaces.
6. To press tooth surfaces together, use the end of the SG cap or a semi-
pointed metal instrument. Using fingertips may result in a finger glued
to a tooth. Pressure is needed for only a few seconds, but maintain
dryness for 30-45 seconds.
7. After the repair has set, remove the toilet paper and salivate so as to
wet the area all at once. This results in a smoother surface on any
exposed glue, and avoids any initial sticking to other surfaces.
8. Once set, SG becomes very hard, and exposed glue surfaces, if not
smooth to begin with, can be sharp or rough to the tongue or inside of
mouth. When this happens, you may need to redo it. Sometimes the rough
part can be smoothed with a nail file or covered with additional gel SG.
9. The glued tooth area should have little stress or movement. Don't expect
to be able to bite normally on it.
10. Avoid getting SG too close to the gumline. It will irritate the gums
just as plaque does.
11. Once opened, SG loses effectiveness over time. You may have to buy a
new tube before you've finished the old one.
12. Obviously this is not an ideal solution. Science could, if it hasn't
done so already, improve the product for specific dental applications. If
dentists as a group were not so greedy, such a product would probably
be on the market by now. Of course, if they were less greedy, they might
charge affordable fees for their services in the first place.
13. I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THE DENTAL USE OF SUPERGLUE OR ITS EQUIVALENTS;
I AM MERELY PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT IT IS POSSIBLE. ALSO, I USE
THE TERM SUPERGLUE GENERICALLY, NOT AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF A PARTICULAR
BRAND OF THE PRODUCT.
If there are any dentists out there who are actually more interested in the dental health of the public than your own profits, who would like to offer helpful suggestions, please email me and I will pass them along.
In the US and many other countries, dentists use professional associations (like the ADA) to keep their prices high. There are other places in the world where dental care is much more affordable, Unfortunately, travel to those places is also expensive. Still, it would be worthwhile knowing and listing the ones where destists are reasonably priced. Thailand is one, I have heard. Any others?
Anyone with more information or suggestions on this subject is invited
to e-mail me. I will include all good ideas on this page. I would also like to hear your thoughts on dentists, their greed and its harmful effect on ordinary people in your part of the world. If you have ideas on what approaches might be taken to control those unfairly high prices, send those as well, and I'll put them on this page for discussion and inspiration.
Please include the word 'teeth', 'tooth', or 'dental' in your email subject so that I see it right away.
Feb. 5, 2011: Since I posted this several years ago, I
have received numerous emails thanking me for the information,
and a few asking for additional advice, to which I've responded,
though my expertise is limited to my own experience. I have
received several emails offering some additional suggestions,
which I share below, the most recent first.
June 20 2015
Just found your page, and was reading the remarks made. Here in Canada, our dental needs are NOT included in our medical plans, and it, any dental care, is very expensive. There are plans, with Blue Cross etc, but they are costly too.
Thanks, AJ, for correcting that. I admire Canada's medical care system, and I wish we had one like it in the US. It would be great if dental care were covered too, but it isn't. I found a good article about dentistry in Canada, which reported that not only are prices high, but many dentists diagnose expensive non-existent problems, especially for those with private dental insurance.
Say ‘Aaah Canada’: the painful cost of dental
It points out that many Canadians travel to Mexico for lower dentistry costs. Tips for Dental tourists in Tijuana
The cost of a crown: Comparing Arizona and Algodones
If you research before you go, you can find dental services of high quality at considerable savings.
--cosmic rat July 23 2015
June 9, 2015
Hi! I have came across your website after typing in "is dental glue or super glue stronger" I have a tooth right next to my front teeth that never grew in once the baby fell out so I went a few years with a big gap in my mouth until the orthodontist put a bridge with a false tooth in my mouth and just about every 5-8 months it will come out, this time I accidentally swallowed it eating bread (very foolish of me I'm supposed to bite from my side) would you recommend getting a tooth made then super gluing it back on or just letting them do it? Thank you so much!
As I have mentioned on the web page, I am not an expert in dentistry. Having described my personal findings from my experience, I have added information and suggestions from many readers who have emailed over several years.
One product that you might find useful is called Temptooth, available from Amazon. Temptooth, available from Amazon
A cement that is used by dentists can be ordered from Pearson's
Superglue, as I've said, can be useful but is vulnerable to deterioration from moisture. For a more permanent bond, a cement or epoxy made for the purpose would be better if you can obtain it.
If you read the input from others on the page, there is considerable information from those who have tried various solutions. I add the questions and ideas from everyone who writes to the page. Check back periodically.
If you can afford it, of course, there are probably permanent solutions by dentists, but costs for dentistry are much too high for the vast majority of people. In some countries like Mexico,Thailand, and others, better rates can be found, if you can travel to them.
Thanks for writing; I hope you find the information useful. Feel free to let me know how it goes.
January 8, 2015
Hi, I was searching your page but didn't find my exact issue.
My four front teeth are all crowns. The two left ones (9 and
are very loose now. All dentists I've seen want to pull those
two teeth (which are ground down) along with my $2500, five yr
old porcelain crowns, and also the #11 eye tooth, and go for a
partial or implant. I am not ready for that drastic step, and
frankly can't afford it. Delta Dental has been horrible,
claim after claim based on my periodontal problems.
This are VERY nice porcelain crowns that I paid for (total of
$6000 for all four) when I was working. I could go on and on
about why I want a DIY solution, but you and your readers
get that. Essentially I'm just gluing my two front porcelain
crowns together... the loose ones to the solid ones.
Yes, I finally got up my nerve and tried to SG (super glue) my
left (#9) to the other front tooth. I had about 30 min of bliss,
felt GREAT, then it came apart again. I used Duro original super
glue. I admit I'm very nervous about ruining my expensive
MarineTex Epoxy Putty Seems very complicated to mix.
What about: Mod-Podge Has anyone tried that? NOTE: the label
says this will NEVER come off, so take caution before using.)
I've gone this long, so before I do something permanent that may
be crazy, I just wanted to hear what you and others think or
--DiY in ABQ
PS -- I notice that MarineTex is rated 'high oral toxicity'
whereas the ModgePodge stuff is rated non toxic. Perhaps even
better: The Good
Stuff which claims to permanently bond 'two pieces of
porcelain' which is exactly what I want to do. I'm just chicken
about the PERMANENT aspect and wondering if this would ruin the
'good side' of my teeth if and when the time came to de-couple.
Thanks in advance!!!
It's important to note that none of these 3, from the
information provided, claim to be good for dentistry. However,
they don't say that they aren't, either. The question is not
whether they are toxic during application, but if they are still
toxic after they set.
The Modge-Podge info includes: Be
sure to keep this gloss away from food and your mouth (3/4
the top of a glass).
Perhaps the safest approach is one of the products intended for
dental use, such as Pearson's, or one of the products listed in
the Amazon link.
I suspect that the word 'permanant' should be taken to mean a
good, lasting bond, but not one that is impossible to undo if
necessary. Any repair will also have to allow for a structuring
of the attachment so that the bonding material is not too
stressed by normal use and movement in the mouth.
If any readers have experience to share and suggestions, I hope
they will write, and I will add that.
January 2, 2015
Cheap Dentures 12 dollar dentures (bridge) in about 1 hour (DIY)
My do it your self temporary dentures. Made in about 30 min to one hour. Cost 12 dollars and was pretty easy to make too. (add 4 dollars shipping) now that's a Cheap denture. But works great.
I know you are no expert per your web page but I really appreciate your info!
Here are some things I found:
3 Ways to Find Affordable Dentures Prices
Video: Cheap Dentures 12 dollar dentures (bridge) in about 1 hour (DIY)
DENTISTS HATE THIS VIDEO!
(Ideas on killing bacteria causing cavities, and remineralizing teeth)
The content of this video is not intended to be medical advice and is for information purposes only.
Imagination is everything it is the preview of life's coming attractions. --
Comment on YouTube about the video:
I'm a dentist and the comments below are partly true as are some of the statements in your video, however you CANNOT 'cure' decay that has gone into the layer below the enamel (the more yellow, innervated part of your tooth called dentin). Once into this part of the tooth, it cannot be remineralized and needs treatment by a dentist. Fluoride DOES help with remineralization and helps make the tooth more resistant. Also in our office, we utilize OZONE to kill all the bad bugs before we restore teeth. Kills viruses, yeast, fungi, bacteria, prions and dissolves all their by-products too. ALSO desensitizes teeth! It's a naturally occurring element (we make it immediately fresh) before it's used.
But sorry, you cannot CURE decay that has penetrated into the dentin...
Another YouTube comment:
We don't have to pay in Canada :} just one of the ways we're superior to America :]
Thanks again, Samara. The video on making dentures was especially helpful. The video by the Truther Girls was interesting too, as was the dentist's response. And, I wasn't aware that Canada's excellent health care system also provides dental care. That's great. It would almost be worthwhile moving there and enduring the cold.
December 29, 2014
I lost half a front tooth last night,no pain it never was loose
but my gums and obviously receding.I haven't checked out your
whole page thoroughly yet do you have advice for those suffering
from this disease? All of my front teeth are horrible and I know
other teeth will follow soon.I did save that tooth and was
planning on the super glue fix or something like it but it
detached along the gum line.
I am only 42 have always had problems with my teeth but never
have the hundreds to thousands to do anything.I don't know if
tooth problems are hereditary but my family on my Dad's side some
had dentures at my age.
Thanks for any help,I am glad I came across your sight I love it!
Signed the petition!
Not sure if this was ever brought up:
Temptooth Do It Yourself Tooth Replacement Product
Imagination is everything it is the preview of life's coming
Thank you for that suggestion. I have seen a TV ad for it (or a
similar product). The questions and answers at the link seem
evidence that some have have used it successfully.
Several other interesting products were listed on the Amazon
EasyComforts Denture Repair Kit
EasyComforts Denture Reline Kit
PERK DENTURE REPAIR KIT WITH 28 DENTURE TEETH (Pink)
ProSoft Denture Reliner-Relines 2 Denture Plates
Perma Soft Denture Reliner Kit--Reline 2 Denture Plates
Zinc Phosphate Cement Kit Prime Dent. Dtm
Dental Glass Ionomer Permanent Crown Bridge Cement Type I
InstaMorph - Moldable Plastic - 6 oz
Permanent Tooth White Filling Cement Material Kit Self
Cure Glass Ionomer 20gm Pack
Dentemp O.S. One Step, Caps and Fillings Repair, 8+
Anyone who has used any of these products, let us know what
It appears that some companies are becoming aware that there is
a need for home-use dental repair products. Cements and other
materials designed for dental use will likely be better than
superglue, which, as I mentioned, will deteriorate with
I am not, and don't claim to be, an expert. I just pass on the
experiences and ideas as they are made known, so we can all
learn from them.
--cosmic rat Jan 1, 2015
December 29, 2014
I discovered your website this morning and find it fascinating.
How do I buy Pearson's bonding
agent for gluing my crown back on?
I went to some local dental suppliers and they won't sell it to
me because I'm not a dentist. Where
do you get it from?
Last April a reader suggested: Zinc oxide and eugenol - it can
be purchased (together) through dental supply websites
...Pearson's is one brand of this compound. Here is their
There may be other online sources of the material as well
December 2, 2014
I have been reading accounts of dental problems from your sites readers and decided to add my experience with dental work in Costa Rica.
More than ten years ago I had three root canals, seven teeth capped and three bridges all done on my upper teeth. This required about six visits for a total cost of $2700 and was done by one of the most prominent dentists in that country.
I am currently 89 years old and the dental work served me well until this year when a section of my teeth broke away and I have been quoted a stateside price of over $6000 for a bridge replacement involving an implant!
Thank you for writing. It is important to know of the places where we can get reasonably priced dental work. I have heard that Mexico is one such place, but I didn't know about Costa Rica. Considering all you had done, that sounds like a fair price.
I hope you can find an affordable dentist for your needs this time.
November 19, 2014
I came across your selfless site just now. I have had dentist
phobia for many many years, the result of being very difficult
numb and having not been numb several times when having a bad
tooth drilled. I have never experienced worse pain, and on 2
occassions it was enough for my body to leap from the dentist
seat. It even happened later as an adult and though I warned the
dentists, they didn't believe me and it happened again.
I have avoided dentists at all costs since then...but my teeth
are in shambles. Even if I wasn't afraid of dentists, at this
point I could never afford what needs to be done.
My last bottom semi-working molar cracked in 1/2 today. Both
halves are there and kind of wobbling around. I think what I
to do is super-glue the tooth back together- but I'm not sure
far down the crack goes...or if it's a bad idea to drop super
glue down there.
I am ashamed to be writing this email,
but can you give me some advice? I can't afford to go to the
If your cracked tooth fits back together tightly without
superglue should work well, and the repair might even last for
reasonably long time. I would suggest using original-type
superglue, the liquid, not the gel.
The tight fit would keep moisture away from the glue, which
otherwise weaken the bond. The chemicals in regular superglue
are labeled non-toxic, and has even been used to close wounds in
place of stitching them.
The only danger in repairing
would be trapping bacteria inside it, so I would suggest rinsing
your mouth well with hydrogen peroxide first. That usually
doesn't sting or hurt much, but it is a good disinfectant. Then
dry the area around the tooth with absorbent tissue.
Only use a
small drop of glue, and make sure you can press the tooth halves
together without getting your fingers stuck to the outside. It
should set quickly, but keep the area dry for a few minutes
The gel is better for situations where gaps need to be filled
when it may be more exposed to moisture. The disadvantage of it
is it has strong fumes, which you should avoid inhaling, and at
least one person had an allergic reaction to it. I've used both
types, with no known ill effects.
I understand how you feel about dentistry. If the ones you
encountered had cared to listen and tried harder to spare you
pain, and weren't so much just in it for the money, you and I
many others would be better off.
I hope fixing your tooth works for you. Don't be discouraged if
it doesn't last. Sometimes it takes trial and error to get it
right. Keep checking the page- I'll post your letter, and
may have suggestions too.
Thanks for writing...and, by the way, I don't think anyone
should feel ashamed to ask for help, nor to have either
financial or dental problems. There are far too many of us for
any one of us to feel alone.
August 23, 2014
I'm Diana, a MoveOn member in Cave Creek, Arizona, and I started a petition to the United States Congress and President Barack Obama, which says:
Dental coverage is a medical need and should be included in medical coverage for all and become a part of Medicare. Dental infections and many other dental problems are serious medical conditions.
Sign Diana's petition
I believe that any medical coverage should include dental coverage. Dental coverage should not be denied because of inability to pay. It is a medical need and it should be included as such.
Add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends.
This petition was created on MoveOn's online petition site, where anyone can start their own online petitions. Diana didn't pay us to send this email—we never rent or sell the MoveOn.org list.
Thanks, Diana, your petition is an excellent idea, and naturally I signed it and shared it on Facebook as well. I hope others sign it too, and/or create petitions of their own. With enough interest expressed, it could get some attention.
July 24, 2014
I saw your page while looking for a cheap fix for a crown that the enamel front had fallen off. I just wanted to tell you about my experience with dental work in Costa Rica.
This was about 6 years ago so prices I'm sure have changed but in Jaco a dentist had a nice office equipped like one in the states. He was a young guy and I emailed him photos of my bad teeth. My front crown cost $100. He had a specialist come in from San Jose to do a root canal and that cost $200. I got a 6 tooth bridge and it cost $600. I had a cracked tooth and he filled and used a UV light to cure the filling for like $30. He worked on that for over and hour. The end result was OK, great for the price.
A dentist here charged like $300+ per tooth to pull roots from 4 broken off teeth, $1200+ and I wasn't in the chair for an hour. He had a plan to fix my teeth over $10k, no way I could afford that.
End result of CR trip, front cap fell off in 2 months, put back on here in FL for $150, no other problem till front came off today, not crowns fault. Some enamel cracked on bridge and one tooth under bridge rotted away and bridge came loose, not a big problem just be careful when eating. So overall the CR experience was a great deal and I think I will go back and get the root of the rotted tooth removed, I think it will be about $25 and maybe look at getting a new bridge even though this one is still working ok or just re-glue it.
Would like to get a one piece implant upper but the San Jose dentist that do it while cheaper than here are still costly. From FL airfare is only about $300 and it's a great vacation.
I would like to see any info on using various glues to attach crowns as to being toxic for the body.
That sounds like an excellent deal indeed. It is good to know that Costa Rica is a good place for reasonable dental fees.
Some of the previous contributors have mentioned adhesives that can be used:
Zinc oxide and eugenol (used by dentists) Pearson's (see April 14 email)
an epoxy clay by Aves called Fixit.
There are others, just read back through the emails on the dental page. Let us know how it goes, and thanks for writing.
June 25, 2014
Thank you for your reply to my previous email. Your technique of making retainer supports for a partial from good quality stainless steel wire is a good idea, and I will save the information.
Upon further look at the break in my partial, I discovered that the break is not in the steel support but actually in the resin. Therefore, I have ordered MarineTex, and I'll try that for repairs.
If the partial's break had been on the metal part, my idea was to contact a jewelry repair business to re-weld the metal. According to my Internet research, dental metal needs welding with a gold bond, and a jewelry repair business should have both welding equipment and gold. I also thought about going to a community college that has jewelry making classes, because they should also have welding equipment. I didn't put either of these ideas to the test, however.
I did contact one dental laboratory, and they said they could not do any work without a dentist's order, but I contact only one lab; others may not have such a policy.
After all my ranting and complaining to Cosmic Rat about dentistry not looking for new solutions, articles about new dental treatments appeared in the next few days. The treatments are still experimental, but they are good news, and I hope the treatments will be available soon.
The articles are:
Encouraging teeth to self-repair
Toothless No More – Researchers Using Stem Cells to Grow New Teeth
Stem-Cell Dental Implants Grow New Teeth Right In Your Mouth
Thank you, again, for a location where we can share dental repair ideas and information.
I appreciate the update on your repair situation. It's good that you may be able to use the epoxy. Welding the metal sounded like it could be a little complicated,, though it may have worked with your plan.
Those links you found are good news, and I am glad there is some research being done The electrical method sounds especially interesting. I only wonder how long a session will be needed, and how many of them. If we knew a bit more, we might be able to wire up our own using a small battery...or even solar cells.
Growing new teeth (or anything else we might need) from stem cells will be great, though I wonder if it will ever be made affordable.
So it seems that your 'ranting' works :) (or someone's did, maybe). We still have a huge high-cost issue of course, that causes pain, hardship, and frustration to millions of non-wealthy people.
June 12, 2014
Dear Cosmic Rat,
I was ever so happy to discover http://www.cosmicrat.com/tech/t5dental.htm. Thank you for providing a venue for information about possible measures to take control of my teeth (or lack of them).
I broke my partial, and the break occurred on the metal band that holds the left and right sides together. I doubt that SuperGlue or other epoxies will hold the metal together, so I am investigating other options. I will post anything I discover to Cosmic Rat.
Thank you, also, for providing a forum for me to vent/rant my experience with American dentistry.
I'll start with my positive comments about the American dental profession/industry:
Comparing the teeth of the population in the largely middle-class area of the San Francisco Bay Area (where I lived most of my life) with the teeth displayed by the population of a rural area in a southern state (where I lived for three years), I realize that dentistry has made a real difference. In the middle-class area, I almost never saw a person with crooked or missing teeth. In the rural area, missing and crooked teeth were the norm. I could almost identify which people had moved in from other parts of the country (the area is becoming a gated-community-around-a-golf-course retirement area) and which people were natives.
My (surmised) negative experiences with American dentistry:
I've had the best (according to the ADA) of dental care for my entire life. After my mother and her parents began wearing dentures in their 40s, my mother was determined that her children have good teeth. I had yearly dental visits (and followed all the dentist's instructions) for my entire life.
At every visit, the dentists found necessary work:
Initially, many cavities that needed filling.
One-two years later, these fillings had decay around them and needed to be redone plus more new fillings needed.
One-two years later, the fillings had decay around them again and had to be replaced.
One-two years later, the fillings had decay around them but the tooth could not take any additional fillings, so I had to have a crown (at $800-$1000 in those days).
One-two years later, the crown had decay underneath and had to be replaced. Of course, the old crown could not be used, and I had to pay $800-$1000 for a new crown.
One-two years later, the crown had decay underneath and the tooth had be be attached to a peg, at the cost of $1200 for another new crown on a peg.
One-two years later, the crown had decay underneath and couldn't be replaced to I had to pay $6000 for a bridge.
One-two years later, the teeth anchoring the bridge were too bad, so I had to have a partial plate at the cost of $7000.
Multiply these costs by 24 because it occurred for every tooth.
When I wonder (frequently) how many teeth I would have if I'd never begun all this dental work, I must be fair and include the information that my father had two fillings in his entire life, so I must blame my (likely inherited) weak teeth for part of the problems.
However, I have had only one dentist who suggested a less-expensive option--to used a stainless steel crown in place of a gold crown. She said that stainless steel didn't last as long as gold, but since I was replacing crowns so frequently, the shorter stainless steel longevity probably wouldn't matter. No other dentist has ever recommended options.
I have often wondered if alternatives to these treatments exist. The blame for lack of alternatives can certainly be placed on some greedy dentists, but I'm not sure all dentists are greedy. I believe many of them are sincerely practicing the best dentistry they were taught. so I wonder if the problem is in the lack of research into less expensive dental procedures. In this case, I'm guessing the ADA's influence might limit research that investigates ways to prevent dental deterioration AND less expensive, longer lasting treatments for deteriorated teeth.
Again, thank you for providing an opportunity to collect information that might allow us to take back control of our dental situation.
I was delighted to read your email. You write eloquently about your experiences, and you have brought up some aspects and questions about dentistry that haven't really been considered in this forum. I believe you're right- they should be.
True, that break does not sound fixable with superglue. Whether epoxy could be used depends on the amount of stress involved on the repair. I have remade retainer supports for a partial from a good quality stainless steel wire, attaching it through holes made with a dremel and used epoxy to reinforce and smooth the attachment points. I don't know if anything like that would be of help. Repair problems tend to be one of a kind.
As you and others have pointed out, the problems with dentistry are not just the very high cost, but treatments and repairs that do not last long, requiring repeated visits and fees.
I agree it is not simply greed in all cases.
Factors probably include the high cost of the education and training (which affects for than dentists, of course), which means that those who get their degrees need to start making money to pay off their loans, even if they would like to do research and development instead.
Funding for research tends to go for life-threatening medical conditions more than less serious dental problems. Fewer people have dental insurance than have medical.
There is no agency or incentive that acts to control costs or advocate for patients. The ADA doesn't, except to the extent needed to protect its members from malpractice suits.
I appreciate your thoughts to broaden the perspective of discussion. Perhaps they will generate even more ideas. Thank you for writing.
May 24, 2014
I would like to draw your kind attention that my present denture is broken and partially and to be fixed my-self for some more time.
I want your immediate reply what can be done and suggest me what kind of denture is good for a longer period. I am forty years old
and diabetic and i do not have insurance facility to make higher money to dentist.
I am waiting for your reply at the earliest.
Thanks and regards,
I wish I could directly help everyone who suffers from high dental costs, but I can only offer this forum, and advocate for regulation and legislation that would better protect patients and prohibit excessive charges by dentists.
May 16, 2014
Not sure if your website is current and you still host the forum on superglue and dentist costs. I am seeking answers and help.
I have been desperately trying to fix my teeth since 2005 when I had my four upper teeth removed due to bone loss. A temp six-tooth bridge was put in, that costs me almost $3,000. I was going back every month to have my dentist re-glue because it was constantly falling out. Now mind you, I baby my teeth. Meaning I haven’t bite into an apple or fruit, nor eat hard candies. I have not actually bite into a simple sandwich since before 2005 because of my front teeth. Because the bridge was a temp one-I do not use my front teeth for any eating, I cut up and put into the side and use my molars...which are also all broken now.
I was going back to the dentist each month to re-glue till she basically told me she couldn’t do anything more for me. She wanted me to have her make a permanent bridge which I couldn’t afford. Being single, even with dental insurance...I would have had to pay up front the whole costs, then see what my dental insurance paid or not. I had a medical surgery in 2005 exactly the same time I was getting my teeth extracted.......what my health insurance did not pay-I had to pay exactly $7,000 out of my own pocket. This took me over five years to pay off because our local hospital wouldn’t except small payments, I had to borrow against my car to pay the hospital off. So you clearly see I couldn’t afford a perm bridge and unfortunately she/my dentist wouldn’t see me any more because she got tired of re-gluing every month.
I managed to go to another dentist, who at $100 he would re-glue my bridge each month. That bridge lasted till 2010 when it literally broke in half one night as I slept. I had not teeth in till I was able to get into the dentist...he made me another temp bridge, which since my old dentist destroyed my impressions-he had a make one from scratch, that isn’t attractive, the teeth are not shaped right and it looks awful. But since I had to borrow the $1,000 for him to make another temp bridge, I wasn’t going to complain.
Again-every month back to re-glue at $100 till he also was getting frustrated with me, and basically since I have less than 1% of gum/bone holding my bottom front teeth in-he wanted to pull every tooth I had out, and put removable dentures in upper/bottom. This was devastating to me, and I cried for weeks till I just said no........I was not going to have two dentures when I have a very bad reflex reaction (I gag just brushing my teeth-this is due to multiply surgeries and the tube they use while you are asleep)
Now again over $7,000-$9,000 to pull all teeth and put temp upper/bottom dentures in....I again can’t afford that......so here we are in 2014 and I still am trying to fix my teeth.
For over a year now, I have been super gluing all my bottom front teeth together. I have them hanging in by a tad of skin. They are so loose that I can easily knock them out of my mouth w/ my tongue. So I have been using the gel super glue to squirt in between the teeth. Wait till that dries, then use the brush on superglue to bond all together. Wait till dry. Then I use a more liquid superglue to apply another coat.
The fumes are sickening, I do this every couple of days......and some days re glue several times because the glue isn’t hardening or holding.
My finance and I were to get married in June, then I lost my job-but I wouldn’t plan the wedding because I couldn’t bare being a bride w/ ugly superglue teeth......The wedding was postponed till Dec 2014 because I still haven’t found work. Now a few weeks ago-we postponed it again to 2015. My teeth have been such an eye sore, not to mention difficulty eating....how can I even take wedding pictures?
So in 2011 we went to a Clear Choice in VA......I was so hopeful until they came back with $60,000 to pull all teeth, make upper/lower bridges that are screwed into your jaw bone. I can’t stand removable dentures, so I thought-if they have to come out-which due to health and they are literally falling out-okay then screw them in so they won’t come out! But when I heard the cost, I cried and we started to leave, till they stopped us to say “we will do for $43,000”......
I’ve been trying to come up w/ that money ever since!
The home I have lived in for 18 years now......is in my mothers name-she bought it for me, and I pay the mortgage, repairs etc...One would think take a loan out against your home to fix your teeth. But we argue all the time, she WILL not put my on the house note. She tells me it’s mine, free and clear when she passes..........well-I thought okay, I’ll wait. But my teeth are is such bad shape I don’t think they will last in my mouth another month. Each time I have to re-glue it’s because it’s cracked and coming out-and each time I almost knock my teeth out.
So looking on your website people mentioned Marinetex -Fixit.
I don’t know exactly what to get...there’s too many choices and I am not sure exactly what to buy. The superglue isn’t lasting long, and by the way they talk on your post these products last longer and would be a stronger hold?
Basically-I just need help! We can’t afford anything...the economy is just horrible, and I am in my fifties, so finding work is difficult. I’ve gone on interviews, but just not getting offers.....once they see me-well who want’s an older woman, with teeth that are horrible looking?
I know this was a very long email, and I am sorry-I’m just looking for suggestions or help.
It doesn't matter how long your email is; I thank you for telling your story. I, for one, was very moved by it, despite already knowing how unfairly high dentists set their prices, and how emotionally painful it is to have to suffer without those unaffordable dental services.
This page is as current and relevant as ever, because I continue to get emails expressing both concerns and suggestions, showing that this is a widespread problem. I don't know how many millions of people do their own dental repairs, go into debt, or do without treatment, all because of dentist greed.
Superglue, as mentioned, does have limitations because moisture weakens it. Initially I thought it was a safer material because it dries quickly and is considered non-toxic, and I kept 3 natural teeth for several years by using it repeatedly.
As you see below several people have found epoxies and other cements to last longer and to be non-harmful if used carefully. I have been able to maintain and repair an upper partial for many years using stainless steel wire, a Dremel, and denture repair epoxy. Even so, it is no longer optimum in fit and comfort.
If the information that others have posted here is not helpful enough, perhaps some of the more knowledgeable readers could elaborate or suggest new ideas.
Clearly, though, even better self-dentistry is not the final answer. There is simply no logical reason why even extensive dental work should cost as much as a small house. There needs to be price regulation! Though a person can live without professional dental care, it seriously affects quality of life, self-esteem, and employment.
I understand very well how you feel, Jaime. It has been years since I could smile with my mouth open, or eat anything I wanted. I wish I could help more, but I'm glad I can at least provide this forum for information.
--cosmicrat May 18, 2014.
April 26, 2014
The old style dental adhesive (still quite comon) is Zinc oxide and eugenol - it can be purchased (together) through dental supply websites (you don't have to be a dentist). I usually use Pearson's but there are others. and on a procedural note - while drying the tooth to be worked on cotton pads (comonly called 4 x 4's) can have pieces rolled for under lip and in mouth as well.
But before that, The tooth should be etched for best adhesion - dentists use phosphoric acid, but lemon juice works quite well. Apply with a Q-tip and let work for one full minute, rinse and install cotton roll etc. Then before adhesive is applied use a spray can blower (used for computer cleaning) to blow dry the tooth. Proceed with adhesion. Hope this helps.
Thank you, Rick. Though you didn't say, it sounds like you have some training in dentistry. Your sharing of knowledge is appreciated. I looked it up- here's a link to Pearson's
As good as it is for those who need the knowledge to have it, I also wonder if a few professional dentists might recognize how unaffordable their standard fees are, and would be willing to start a trend toward serving the non-wealthy at much lower rates.
Perhaps it is too much to ask...or is it?
April 5, 2014
Hi. I was reading your site and thought that I would contact you. I have recently had a lot of unanticipated dental problems ( 2 broken molars requiring 1 [unnecessary] extraction & 1 crown).
I however was a dental prosthetics technician for 12 years - so I talk their language. When I sit in the chair I say ' Distal Lingual cusp crack on occlusal of number 31'.
AS I was unable to afford typical dental treatment I visited a 'county managed' facility that offered discount services, and got just what you would expect from a govt run facility - half assed poor quality work. ( Does NOT know how to cut a prep - to deal with retention & torsion problems).
I am online now trying to find a supplier ( on a Saturday) for Relyx or similar dental adhesive to repair a crown that lasted all of 4 hours... & saw your site. I thought that I would make a suggestion or two.
(1) always ask for your impressions & models to be returned to you.
(2) Go online and buy impression material & keep some handy. Water based alginate hydrocolloid will work and is cheap & available ( get a sample pack). an expediend impression tray can be made from epoxy putty available at all big box stores.
Dental techs make the tooth out of wax, then carve it to shape, invest the wax pattern in a mold material, melt the wax and use products from molten stainless steel to polymers to make a new tooth ( thermal , UV, ceramic, aluminum oxide.. etc.).
I thought that I would introduce you to a new item that is really neat. Marinetex - is a product for boat /marine repair of all things from boat hulls to engine blocks. It is a two part epoxy like product that is available in most all stores that sell boating supplies. It is a lot like the old J.B.Weld, but is even sronger, thinner, and is solid WHITE in color.
Thank you very much for writing, Kerry. That's some excellent technical information, from someone who has experience in the field. You are the first professional to contribute here. If you have any additional ideas in the future, feel free to write again with your suggestions.
You mention a county-run dental facility. Many places don't even have such a thing, and it's too bad that one did low-quality work. I suspect the problem is that those with the skill and knowledge weren't willing to accept the lower pay from the county. Once again, greed rears its ugly head.
That's no surprise, of course, but it is sad.
Dec. 22, 2013
I had a bridge pop out several years ago and I used superglue to re-attach it. However, I found the same thing you've discovered - it doesn't last. So after struggling with the situation for a while, I looked at what I had immediately available to me.
I had several different types of epoxy including an epoxy clay by Aves called Fixit. Believe me, I thought long and hard about using this in my mouth and I even went online and researched the product to see how hazardous it might actually be to use it. I couldn't find any compelling evidence suggesting that this might be bad for me, so I gave it a try. the first attempt lasted about a week and a half and I attribute the short time to how I prepared and attached it.
The second attempt has been working for several years now with no sign of loosening or detaching to the point that I have some minor concerns over how the dentist will deal with it when I am able to afford to seek a permanent fix. It's conceivable that this product could actually be used to create a crown and to potentially fill cavities as well (with proper preparation of course).
Anyway, I think it's a great alternative to using superglue and it can provide a more permanent fix.
Here's a link to the product site.
Use at your own risk!
Thanks for the suggestion, Jeff
October 15, 2013
Yep! it works! Glued back a filling that fell out, saved $500.00, bought a kayak instead. Pain and ache stopped almost immediately, and now i wish I had done the same with all my other broken teeth and lost fillings. Thanks a lot folks.
Les, Wellington NZ
Thanks for writing, Les, and sorry I missed seeing your email at first. I try to post and answer everyone as soon as I can. If anyone has written and not been answered, try again. Sometimes Hotmail doesn't work like it should.
November 14, 2013
How do you remove the old super glue from a front cap that needs reset? Mine only lasted 3 days. And I need more time.
I am so glad some one out there understands this mess. Thanks for your time.
I have seen a product called Superglue remover, which is probably similar to acetone-based nail-polish remover, since the latter is recommended by the Superglue Corp. Removing Superglue
Be sure to wash the surface immediately afterward with soap and water.
Moisture deteriorates the supeglue bond. If moisture can be sealed out from the repair, it may last longer. Superglue gel might hold longer, but be careful not to breathe the vapor it emits before it dries. One person reported an allergic reaction to the gel.
Thanks for writing. I am posting your question on the page; perhaps others may have additional suggestions. Anyone?
October 19 2013
Dentists Use Superglue Anyway?
I recently went to my own cosmetic dentist after waiting weeks after my crown in front broke in half. I had paid over a thousand dollars for it a couple of years earlier. I had waited because I was broke. The office call alone was a hundred. Got in there and they said they could not fix it. Had to get a new one. I said like hell. Glue it back.
So the dentist followed just about the exact procedure Cosmicrat describes and of course it was superglue ~ I would know that smell anywhere and he may have been using some of that powdered stuff like for the nails to fill in the gap left by crumbling. Cost me $177. Total. The repair lasted a week.
So today I got online and found the exact procedure they did last week and find I coud have done it myself and from now on I will.
I recommend that everyone read a wonderful book by Professor Hamish Cunningham called Glimpses of the Naughties. It is available on Amazon. I have it on my Kindle. My name is Lorna Moravec. I am a 60 year old lady in central Texas. I live in the country and I am a writer.
I am also intrigued by the make your own teeth out of Gorilla Glue thing and I am going to investigate that further.
We can all make it on our own and all help each other do it. Slip under that fence one at a a time and lift up the barbed wire for the next one.
Thanks! And you're welcome.
September 6, 2013
I'm with all of you. I have put so much money into my teeth, it's not funny. The dental bills are horrendous and this is my 7th time my bridge fell out. I'm making my dentist's BMW payment. I decided to try Gorilla Glue and much to my surprise it's holding on fantastic! I'm planning on canceling my dental appointment on Tuesday if this stuff holds on. He charges me $170.00 per visit to re cement this bridge that lasts for 7 weeks! I thought of Gorilla glue myself and then decided to Google it and came across your site.
I just ordered two sets of cosmetic teeth from Imako and I'm really excited about getting them. This is not a sales pitch, but for gosh sakes, they are less then $50.00! I can't afford to take the chance of my bridge falling out again and not being able to see the dentist for a few days and having to take time off of work. I'm a teacher and would no way go in w/o my bridge. I won't have to worry anymore about something going wrong when I have these cosmetic teeth around.
My dentist tells me that it will cost me almost $5,000.00 for a new bridge and there is no way I can afford that, so I have to make use of what I can.
Thanks for the great info and please tell the others about Imako. They have great reviews and they are the cheapest I found and look good too.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Peggy, and for the suggestion. Please let us know how the Imako teeth work for you when you get them.
July 26, 2013
Are dentist's fees very high in Spain?
>Costs higher than uk as no National Health assistance,prices vary as does quality. Average per crown implant (costa del sol) 999€
My four crown bridge 1.700€,plus 30-60€ each refix
Superglue for me!!!
July 24, 2013
Hi,I live in Spain,was advised to have 4 tooth bridge to replace broken front teeth...mistake every 6 months it comes loose..more cash for dentist, this week used superglue, fingers crossed, possibly the answer to my problem. Seems quite sturdy.
It seems that dentists in Spain charge high fees, too. One would think that at least they would guarantee their work.
I hope that repair works well for you. Thank you for writing.
June 24, 2013
Hello friend. Fantastic info on SG for teeth. This is my 2nd time round on SG. A front tooth cap. A bit of the cap came off and it was loose. SG helps and I have been considering rebuilding the back of the tooth with an epoxy 2 part. The local dentist will cost. I am happy to know there are others like me.
I am sad to say that dentists are generally greedy. The dentist at the clinic (affordable option) prefers to pull teeth than deal with fixing problems that require any creative artistry. I am inspired to move forward and try a small bridge. I am a capable man and can probably make a mould. Any idea what putty like stuff dentists use to do this? Great site.
Lastly, dentists are just another part of our abusive and manipulative society - like lawyers, bankers, pharmaceutical industries, food (especially GM), traffic cops, normal cops, oil industry, multi national corporations and banks, etc.
Our society is at best preposterous and fails rationality. I'm afraid a paradigm shift and rehash of society is not going to happen before absolute collapse and spiral into anarchy. Heavy stuff. Be well.
Raoul the owl
Perhaps someone else knows what dentists use to make molds, and can write with the information. Again, I caution everyone to be sure any material they use is safe and non-toxic.
I agree that it is not just dentists who are greedy; it is an integral feature of our socioeconomic system which allows and encourages people to take advantage of one another to obtain wealth, rather than cooperating for one another's mutual benefit.
It is indeed irrational and wasteful of both resources and of human lives. I believe it is possible for the vast majority of us to learn this and effectively demand change without a disastrous collapse, but that will not be easy to do.
On my main website, of which this page is only a part, I write about such matters. Cosmic Cabdrivers' Guide to the Universe
Anyone who would like to discuss any of that, feel free to email me as well. As always, thanks for writing.
Sun, 12 May 2013
JB weld WaterWeld 2 part epoxy is excellect for repairing and replacing fillings, crowns and making bridges to fill gaps.
Its color is white but it will stain (unless coated with superglue).
Brush teeth and then gargle with 2 types of mouthwash (mouthwash types: biotene, Peroxyl, antiseptic).
Just knead a small amount until becomes sticky on fingers, (5 min +)
then place where needed, roughly form it to space, then gently bite and grind teeth to create correct bite pattern.
Rub and wet the side surface with your tongue, you can shape it, holding teeth clenched, and it will give it a smooth surface on sides.
Don't worry about extra on adjacent teeth, it will not bond to smooth surfaces, and will break off where it is made thin at top sides of tooth.
If you mess up, you can pop it out and try again.
Don't swallow saliva!
This also works very well for replacing crowns, making a missing tooth to fill gap, just bridge to adjacent teeth.
When it comes out (repairs last from days to months, depending on surface available to bond to and your technique)
you can simply repeat above, and improve your technique.
Or take an exacto type knife, and improve the shape of that one, then use superglue to glue it back in place.
Coating the piece with superglue will keep it from staining
( coat the outside, let it dry a couple min, then coat the surface to glue tooth, replace, and gently bite down until glued to tooth again).
This allows you to make excellent, correctly shaped repairs!
Thanks for your contribution. I hope you have adequately researched this product regarding any toxic effects its ingredients might have.
I appreciate all information and ideas that might be helpful to the many people who cannot afford dentists, and I will pass it on to those who view my page on the subject. I do, however, urge caution before using substances that could cause unwanted effects when used in the mouth.
April 28, 2013
I read your blog and may I say that your remedy is worthwhile. These dental professionals Should be considered high society criminals for their greed.
We have a glue at home called the gorilla glue. It works better when surface is wet. Requires very little because it expands to 3 times the amount used. It's the best glue we've used so far.
Just to prove how strong this is...we have a 50 lbs. arm dining chair and it sits on a carpet. One of the legs broke off when I moved the chair backwards. So I proceeded to wet both ends and applied the glue, clamped it overnight and it's been going strong since Christmas.
That said, I am hoping that this glue will last for a while.
Before application, I flossed the area, gargled with this product called Biotene to remove any bacteria and finished with water. Apply a speck of the glue with a toothpick on the loose tooth and attach, hold for 1-2 mins. For better results, fold a piece of cloth into at least an eighth of an inch thick (kinda like those cloth used to clean your spectacles) and then bite on it for another 10 mins. Don't eat anything for the next hour. You should be good to go.
Gargle with peroxide or Biotene after the process just to be safe.
Thanks for writing. I'm not sure whether Gorilla Glue is a good idea. It isn't chemically the same as superglue. I checked this page: Gorilla Glue Product Safety Information
It doesn't sound especially hazardous, but I don't know enough about it to say it's safe in the long term. Even the gel type of superglue has vapors you don't want to inhale, and one person said superglue gel caused an allergic reaction, although I've used it in the past with no ill effects.
Please be very careful when trying any new glue products! Check out their ingredients thoroughly to make sure they are not toxic when used inside the mouth. Remember, you probably won't find any direct information about what is safe to use on teeth, and what isn't.
MARCH 27 2013
Just wanted to let you know that I bought regular superglue this time instead of the gel type superglue and I did not have an allergic reaction.
On your site you said to tell you what we think of dentists. I think if they are going to charge you as much as they do, it should at least last.
I had $25,000 worth of dental work--7 years later I needed another $7000 worth of dental work. I am disabled now and can'[t afford the dentist so I am gluing my bridge back in with superglue. I brushed my teeth. I have severe GERD/Acid indigestion--the acid ate my teeth.
And then after spending all that money I find that there is a surgery they can do to stop the acid reflux when none of the medications they gave me worked. I had a simple out patient procdure an now no more acid indigestion-- just think if they had done that surgery years ago I wouldn't have had to spend all that money.
The whole medical & dental field is greedy. I was a nurse-believe me the nurses aren't getting that money.
Feb. 18 2013
CAUTION: It appears that allergic reactions are possible, though this is the first and only report of that I have received -cosmicrat
I have been using superglue to glue teeth for years and it worked great until now. I have a bridge that came out and I can't afford the dentist so I have been superglueing it in. Well my mouth decided to have an allergic reation to the glue. Now I am trying to get it out. I have sores all over the inside of my mouth and my lips are swollen, just wanted to let you know. It never dawned on me that this could happen.
--John and Alexis
Dec. 27 2012
Thank you for this info! My 3 unit bridge popped off after I was stupid and ate a bunch of stuff (peanut brittle!) on Christmas. After calling 8 dentists to have the bridge re-cemented and getting quotes of $185 to $293, I decided to try super glue. So far so good.
Very frustrating that a simple thing has turned into such a big ordeal. I am new to the area and just started a new job so I don't have time for a bunch of dental hassles. I will write back and let you know how it went.
Wondering if the acrylic nail glue was for a sealant or mixed up to patch a tooth???? Thanks again!
Oct. 22, 2011
I thought it was only my opinion - I live in NYC and have been flying to Thailand every year or so to have my dental work done there - incredible GREEEEED here!! YES!! GREEED! That's the word!
I have a crown that needs to be recemented - front tooth - no choice - and I went to a local DDS - how about almost $8,000? Of course, according to Dr. Brand New Mercedes I need a three unit bridge at $2,000 per unit, extractions, temporaries and cleaning and x-rays etc., etc., , we're talking almost 8 G's..
I jumped out of the chair and told him: this is why we have dental tourism. I said, in Thailand I can get the work done for a fraction of that - live like a king for a month and come home with change. The trouble is, I can't fly to Thailand just to have a crown recemented so out of desperation I thought of SG - (or even epoxy).
I will try the SG solution until I can get there, a few months from now. I was worried that it may be toxic but my web research has assured me it is not - therefore I am going to the hardware store tomorrow.
It's a legal STICK-UP!!!! They don't need guns...
That's why they are down on Wall Street, occupying it, they need to occupy the ADA while they're at it - that protest I'll join!
Your article was great. I have 8 good superglue gel repairs in my mouth, and I'd like to add the following tips:
1. Your preparation supplies could include some hydrogen peroxide, to swish in your mouth for 60 seconds a few times after brushing the repair area, to help kill any decay bacteria and to completely clean the repair site.
2. You can use tissue and a toothpick to dry the site while inhaling through your mouth and exhaling through your nose to keep it dry.
3. If the repair leaves a large area of glue exposed, as when rebuilding half of a chipped tooth, or rebuilding tooth edges or replacing a large filling, then don't swallow any saliva for 20 minutes after the repair becomes semi-solid. Instead, spit into a container until the repair dries for a few minutes and becomes fairly solid, then for the next 20 minutes repeatedly fill your mouth with water for 30 to 60 seconds and spit it out, to leach any
remaining toxic fume chemicals from the superglue gel.
And here's another suggestion from a reader:
Just wanted to let you know that the nail acrylic stuff available at beauty supply stores makes a great substitute for
fillings and crowns. Be sure to get the natural color, not clear, pink or white. Or you can mix and match for the perfect shade.
Get a Q-tip, dip it into the Nail Liquid, then the Powder and it forms a semi-solid glob which solidifies into a plastic material.
Necessity is the mother of invention and greedy dentists have caused this necessity.
Brian from South Africa writes:
I think that we should take on the dental proffession. They are a bunch of robbers. i need a dental bridge 4 or 6 units...its made of porcelan and they want to charge me 24000 Rand (about $3430 US). It's a shitload of money in this country. You can buy a nice second hand small car for that price.
The dentists are robbing us blind and need to be taken on. I think this is a rip off and i can't afford a medical aid What about the small man battling to survive in this country of ours. I can't do it on my own so lets let your website start the battle going.
Diane from Texas writes:
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I just happened upon your website tonite
while I was researching the notion that I might be killing myself with my superglue self-dentistry.
I told (confessed to) a nurse friend of mine about a month ago. She was properly horrified!! Told
me to immediately go to a clinic for the poor, indegent and uninsured. I said 'no thank you'.
I am a 55 year old, educated woman on disability. Needless to say, I can't afford All-on-4 dentures.
I can't even afford rubber dentures! Hee hee! For the past few years I have been fixing my own dental
problems with super glue and I must say, I've gotten pretty good at it.
I've got seven front
'SG' teeth and no one seems to notice. I love it! Necessity IS the mother of invention and I
consider myself to be quite a resourceful (sp) woman. I've had it pretty rough all my life.
Raised two kids by myself, no parents, no family. Got my college degree and then got fibro
myalgia, hence the disability. So, when I needed dental care, I found a way! I'm a writer sometimes,
a massage therapist sometimes, an insurance
agent sometimes (hardly ever anymore because they are a bunch of greedy SOB's too) and a
dentist all the time.
I plan on going back to school and getting my masters degree in counseling.
With the way our country is going, I figure we are all going to need a shoulder to lean on. Life 101.
Its every man(woman) for him/herself.
Anyway, I just had to write and say thanks for letting me know that I wasn't crazy or poisoning
myself and that I was not alone. Yes, these dentists are greeeeeeeeedy!! Only those with plenty
of money can afford good teeth these days. And I'm doing fine. Oh, and 'cosmicrat' sounds like
a new political party. Thinking of starting one?
What have YOU had to pay or have been quoted for dental work? Are there reasonably priced dental health plans, or are they just a promotional scam? What sort of protests or popular pressure might be effective against individual dentists, or dental associations like the ADA? Do they use illegal price-fixing? Write me at the address above, and I'll share it here.